Are you wondering which is better: option trades that result in a credit or trades that result in a debit?  Simply put, you’re asking whether you should choose a credit spread or debit spread strategy.  Let’s consider both options in more detail. 

A credit spread (also called a net credit spread) involves the investor selling one option then buying another option.  The second option is in the same class and also shares the same expiry date.  However, there are different strike prices between the two options.  In this instance, the new investor gets a net credit for entering this position.  He is looking forward to the spreads either narrowing or expiring in order to get a profit.  A credit spread is basically a conservative strategy in investment.  It is designed to earn a moderate level of income while also limiting your potential loss.  In this circumstance, you are buying and selling [...]

Many of my members belong to other option trading advisories. Some of these are similar to mine.  And normally you have to become a member to determine if their claims and trades are reality.

So this post is to just say beware of option trading advisories. Even mine.  never put money into a trade without papertrading the strategies first. Take everything said at face value and make them (and me) prove to you that they are telling the truth and that their trades do make money.

Here is an email from a member who tried another service. The name of the service is blocked out.

By the way, I had to open a XXXXX account just to see what those guys were up to.  Their 100% auto-trade loss last October was pretty scary (the only thing that saved them was that they came up with 100% gain in one day on what I guess [...]

Options Trading is growing like gangbusters.

Good news for us is that the first step for someone new to options will be will learning to buy and sell options, not sell. And so option sellers like us, will have more volume and liquidity to work with.

Here is a video of the crazy man Jim Cramer interviewing the CEO of OptionsXpress after they released their 2009 3rd quarter earnings.

Here is a question that comes after reading Lesson 2 in my 9 Lesson course on selling options.

When you say, to buy back the option before, the expiration date, don’t you incur additional costs, that reduce your profits even further ?

Good question. In some trades like the Calendar spread you have to buy them back because you don’t want to get long the option. But in an iron condor or credit spread, you can wait and let the options expire. If you buy them back you incur commissions plus whatever you are buying it back for.
 
In many cases it is a question of risk vs cost.  if there is a lot of time left before expiration, you are probably best buying the trade back in case there is a move against you and you end up losing money. On the other hand if you let it expire you can save a few dollars and maybe 1 or 2% points on the trade. 
 
So lets say you it will cost you $20 to buy back a trade, but if the trade moves against you, you could lose $1,000. Do you take your profits or hope for that last $20. Even if the trade moves just once against you in 4 years, you still lose money.
 
Make sense?

Here is a real life example.

On October 12, 2009  I did a credit spread on AAPL. I Sold the Nov 165 Puts and Bought the Nov 160 Puts as protection for a credit of .50 on each spread. There were about 40 days to expiration.

On this trade if the puts expired worthless I would make 11.11% before commissions. (Credit of $50 divided by max loss of $450 per spread = potential return of 11.11%) 

Well AAPL just had earnings yesterday and the stock shot up to about 200 today. This morning, I was able to buy back the credit spreads at .07 each.

So I made .43 per credit spread in 8 days.  That is 9.5%

Why did I buy the spreads back? I could have let them expire worthless. If I did i would make another .07 per spread. But there is still 31 days left to expiration. So I decided to make my profit and money and look for another trade.

Who knows? Maybe AAPL will settle down and I will sell another credit spread on it this month for more credit. Or maybe I will do something else. All I know is that I don’t want to risk losing $450 per spread (anything can happen and APPL could drop in price) to make another $7 per spread.

Yes I did pay the commissions by buying the spreads back. But on each spread I paid $2.50 in commissions.  $2.50 going in and $2.50 coming out which is a total of $5 in commission per spread. So instead of mkaing $43 per spread I made $38 per spread which is still 8.44%.

(That’s why having an option friendly broker is so important. I pay $1.25 per option with no trip charge. If you are paying $10 plus $1 per option or some other crazy commissions then you ae playing a game that is stacked against you. Get a better broker.) 

In my opinion, take off your spreads when they are close to worthless if there is alot of time left. Take your profits. Everyday your money is out of the market is a day you cannot lose it.

This is not to say I never let my spreads go to expiration. Sometimes I do, but not too often on a highly volatile stock.

In my last post I listed a Free Trade on POT which is called a Calendar Spread, also known as a Time Spread.

In that trade we sold the Oct 90 Calls and Bought the Nov 90 Calls.

The trade makes money when POT stays in range around 90. Basically what we want is the Oct option to decay and lose value while the Nov option (which we bought) retains its value. Time Decay quickly erodes an option’s value, especially in the last 30 days. That is why I prefer to put these types of trades on with 30 or fewer days left for the front month.

We enter this trade with a debit meaning we paid for the trade. That is because the Nov option was more expensive than the Oct option because the Nov option has more time premium.  POT also has earnings after the Oct option expires which means that the volatility (value) of the Nov option will be elevated (at least a little more than normal).

What we want is for POT to stay in between the break evens until it gets close to expiration. The Oct option loses value everyday and that is how we make money. During the last few days before expiration the fluctuations in prices can move wildly.  That is why I prefer to be out of this trade before expiration week. But in this trade we put it on pretty late and will have to stay in longer.

To exit a Calendar Spread you have to sell it. Otherwise you will still be holding the back month (Nov) option even if the front month (Oct) expires.

The beauty of Calendar Spreads is that they are cheap to trade, easy to adjust, and can result in large profits – 20-40% is common. You can also keep your losses small.

Hello OptionGenius.

I have been trading credit spreads for about 3 months now with some success.  I read the nine part  course and realize that my past training didn’t discuss much about selection of trades and adjustment of trades.  When I was looking around the website, I saw a brief reference on how you scan for and pick your trade opportunities, how you use the mathematical models with standard deviation to help your selection and how to determine exit points., but there weren’t too many details on these topics.   Do you share the information about scans, about the mathematical models and how to use them as the subscriptions move along?

Eric,

For credit spreads most traders use technical analysis to find support and resistance and use those levels to pick strikes. I have found that, that strategy works except when it doesn’t. support and resistance are guidelines not walls that the stock will [...]

Hi,Like most people I have various accounts. The account in question is what I normaly “traded” out of. This is not my retirement account but an account to hopefully help build wealth not preserve. Historically I’d say I only used 5% of it toward option plays (and not whole 5% in one position) since I usually was naked and a 100% loss was possible. I haven’t been trading much of anything lately but do you feel your strategies are designed safe enough to utilize 100% of this type of account? I guess what I’m asking is once somebody says yes they are utilizing risk capital would you suggest devote entire sum to these type of plays or should some percentage still be in other growth tactics? Asking because I’m trying to simplify my life at this point, not make it more complicated.-Paul

I am not licensed to give specific advice. But [...]

Great question from a member:

Last time with MCD position you opened another Butterfly to bring the Delta Neutral. Which I have been following and I thought it is very interesting. And maybe that’s the reason to raise me this question.
So my question is related to Iron Condor. Why do usually we close the

 position and open a new one when the price comes after us, instead

of adding some positions to bring the Delta Neutral.
For example: our last RUT we closed 640/650 and opened 660/670.

If we had keep 640/650 and add something to bring the Delta low levels

 again would have similar effect??
I know since we are just handling low quantity is more difficult to create this kind of sceneario, but assuming that the quantity would be greater, do you think that the mechanism of adding positions to bring the Delta low has the same effect as to roll up/down the position?
Just trying to get a better understand from the options world.
 
Tks a lot,
 
Paulo

Excellent question.
 
You are right, the same adjustment can be used in a condor. You can add options to lower the delta. That is one of the adjustments I look at. And it can work. But it depends on what is going on in the market. This month, the market was advancing regularly. Just about everyday it was going up. Adding some calls would only protect the deltas for a couple days and we would then have to do something else. That is why I moved the calls. It is a more drastic adjustment but I thought it was warranted in this environment. if you have a condor where the market makes a huge move upwards in a day and it might go back down, that is when you can add some calls to lower your deltas. Or if there is fear of a big move you can lower your deltas before the move so that no matter what happens you do not get hurt. You can then remove the bought options after the fear has passed.
 
Allen

The first thing to determine is whether the trade is a debit trade, where you pay money for the trade, or a credit trade, where you get money. Iron condors and credit spreads are two examples of credit spreads. Butterflies and Calendar Spreads are debit spreads.

With a debit spread, the max you can lose is the amount you paid for the trade. The max you can gain is harder to determine. I do it using the Analyze tab on my broker’s platform. On a butterfly you can make up to 200% of the debit and sometimes more. On a Calendar you can make 100% of the debit. But you normally will not. At expiration, the profit zone becomes very narrow and the Greeks (delta, gamma, theta, and vega) become very volatile and option prices make huge swings up and down.

On either of these trades, 20% profit is a good number [...]

An interesting article today in the WSJ talk about how more and more small investors are trading options. The sad par tis most of these investors do not the true danger of the options they are trading. Only too late do they realize that buying options is a losing proposition.

The good news is the more options are traded the more liquidity they will have and the more competition among brokers will lead to lower commissions for all of us.

here is the article:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125202073403184971.html?ru=yahoo&mod=yahoo_hs#articleTabs%3Darticle

By JEFF D. OPDYKE

Most investors are hoping stock prices push higher. The short-sellers want stocks to sink lower. And then there is Marlene Sackheim: She hopes the market goes nowhere.

The 57-year-old chief financial officer of her husband’s pain-management clinic in Pensacola, Fla., trades options for herself and other family members. Her preferred strategy — colorfully dubbed a naked strangle — rakes in the money when the Standard & Poor’s [...]