Podcast – Episode 134 – Stick It To Wall Street Stock Income Program

Podcast Transcript

Hey there, passive traders How you doing? I got something really, really exciting for you today, if you’d like to have really, extra money, free money without having to do anything, that’s what we’re all about, right? Passive income, passive trading. This is really something I just came across this, I don’t understand why I didn’t know about this sooner. I just can’t imagine all the money that I’ve left on the table over the years. I mean, I knew that this was happening. And I knew this was done. I just didn’t know that us, individual investors at home guys, I didn’t know that we could do this. And so I had to make this deal right away. And I had to get this information out there. So you could basically turn this setting on in your account and start making money today. Okay, that’s how that’s how cool it is. There’s nothing to buy. There’s nothing to do there. I mean, basically, it’s, you have stock in your account, your broker will pay you extra money for having that stock in your account. That’s simply what it is. So, I mean, let me just get into it. Okay? I’m flabbergasted. I’m speechless. No, I’m not, I’m talking. So I’m not speechless. But still, I’m really like, shocked.

I call it the sticky to Wall Street stock Income program, because that’s what we’re doing. We’re sticking it to Wall Street, we’re sticking into the man. Now, look, this is our works. Normally, when we buy a stock, right? It goes up, we make money, that’s what we want, you buy it, and then it goes up and you sell it or, you know, your passive trading. So you don’t want to sell it, you do want to get dividends from it, you still want to sell options on it, and you want to make money off of it. You don’t want to sell it ever, really, because it’s just it’s a it’s an asset, they just want to cashflow. But this is another way to do that. So you buy the stock, it goes up, you make money. But if you think the stock is gonna go down, well, obviously, you can short the stock, right? And that’s what hedge fund guys do. That’s what Wall Street guys do. The big banks, the institutional traders, that’s what they do all the time. They are shorting stock. Well, in order to short the stock, they don’t own it, you can’t short something you own right, because they would lose value and you own it. So that’s bad. They instead they turn around and they borrow the stock from other brokers on Wall Street. So if they want to short a stock, they got to go to a different broker and say, Hey, I need this many shares this, I need this many shares this. And in order to do so they have to pay money, they actually pay interest to the broker that they’re borrowing from. Now, if you go to your I know this, this works on Thinkorswim. If you go to the main page, where you type in the symbol, and you see the all the information, it’ll tell you if the stock is easy to borrow, or hard to borrow. And that’s what tells you how much volume there is and how much ability the hedges have to borrow this stock. Right? If it’s easy to borrow, then they can go to any borrow and they can get it and they’ll pay a lower interest rate. If it’s hard to borrow, they have to pay a lot higher interest rate. Okay, so that’s the really cool part. Because if we have that stock, we could lend it and collect that interest. That’s right. So the hedge is they have to learn, they have to pay whoever they’re borrowing their stock from the payment, it depends on the stock and how much they need to stop, right.

If it’s hard to borrow, they’re gonna pay more. But any borrowing that they do, for us is really extra money. So yes, if you have stock in your account, it’s just sitting there, you turn this feature on in your account, click, or I mean, there’s no application, but you fill it out, and you get approved for this, your broker will take that stock from you whenever somebody wants to borrow it, and they will pay you interest. Now, the cool part is nothing changes in your account, nothing changes, you can still sell it whenever you want, you’re not locked in. If there’s a dividend, that money will still be given to you. You can sell options against it. The only requirement is that you own the stock 100% no margin. So if you own the stock 100% no margin. You can do this. Okay now, against the details a little bit, but here’s what it’s called. If you want to research it, you want to look it up, you want to call your own broker and find out more I think you should because it’s like free money right? At Interactive Brokers. It’s called the stock yield Enhancement Program, stock yield enhancement program, because that’s basically what it does. They’re giving you more money for owning it at other brokers like AmeriTrade, Fidelity Schwab e trade, it’s called the fully paid lending Income program called the fully paid lending Income program. So you can either research it online or go into your account and search it or you just call up your broker and ask him make sure you get the pros and cons haven’t walked you through it. Right do your own due diligence before you do you do it. But it sounds really awesome. And I’m applying myself to get this set up today. I was planning on setting it up first making some money off of it and then being able to come back and report it.

I was like No one, we’re gonna wait, I just need to tell you guys right now. And because I’ve seen other people do it and they were boarded that it works, it’s easy, it’s doable. And so I’m gonna go ahead and tell you now, and then I’ll go do it, and then I’ll make another, you know, we’ll talk about it later, and see how it does and all that stuff, basically, you get daily income, yes, they put the money in your account every day. Because let’s say, let’s say there’s a stock and, you know, they’re gonna pay you 12% a year. That’s a lot, right? 12%. Now, they’re probably not going to take the stock from you, borrow it for the whole year. But for whatever period of time, they’ll take that 12% divided by blah, blah, blah, how many days and then you get paid that dividend or you get that dividend, but you get paid that income that yield every every day in your account, and it’ll show up as an account as a payment to you. Okay? Now, again, like I said, there’s no restrictions on the on the trading, you can sell it whenever you want to, you can trade options on it, if you want to, make sure your broker allows it. Every brokers are different. They all have different criteria. So make sure your broker allows it. But yes, you can trade it you there’s no locking period, you can get out whenever you want. Now, you might be thinking, But wait a minute, you know, if I’m giving this stock, and I’m letting somebody borrow it, who wants to short it, that’s going to make the stock go down, and I own it. So that’s going to hurt me Why would I do that? Well, you would do that because they’re going to short the stock anyway, whether they borrow it from you, or they borrow from somebody else, they’re going to borrow it, they’re still going to do it. So you might as well make money off of it. Right. And we are in it for the long term. We’re not in it for like five points. We are in it for five years. So if you do your stock selection properly, you’re going to want to stay in the stock. And if it if it goes down, that’s great. Well buy more. That’s perfect. And we’re getting paid while we’re waiting. And we’re selling options against it while we’re waiting. And we’re still getting dividend payments while we’re ready. So yes, it’s a good idea. The yield of what they do depends on the stock. If it’s harder to borrow, you get less if it’s easier to borrow. No, it’s harder bar you get more, it’s easier to borrow you get less, it depends on the broker as well. And the broker will then determine how much of that money they give you. So yes, I know it’s yours. Right, but they’re doing the transaction. So they keep part of it. Now at AmeriTrade they say they keep 50% Interactive Brokers is also 50%. So they keep 50% of that interest that gets paid. All right. Now, what’s the risk?

Well, the risk is that this is the once you hand over the stock, it’s not government protected. So basically, what happens is if you have stock at Fidelity or AmeriTrade or whatever, your broker, if your broker goes out of business, you are protected up to a certain dollar amount by the US government. So the government will go into okay broker you failed, give us all your accounts, you know, let us know how much did Joe have in his account? Oh, this much. Okay, Joe, well, here you go, Here’s your money. Or here’s the stock that you own. You know, if you got 100 shares, here’s your 100 shares, or they’ll give you the money for it. So the government protects you in a normal environment. In this situation, the government will not protect you because you’re lending them away. You’re giving them up temporarily. Right, so you’re not holding on to them. In order to offset that. What the brokers have done is each broker has a bank. Right? So for AmeriTrade, the bank is Wells Fargo right now. So the broker or in this case, AmeriTrade takes 102% of the value of the stock that they’re borrowing and they go and they put that money or those that that amount of asset into the bank at Wells Fargo. So in case AmeriTrade goes out of business, Wells Fargo will make you whole okay. So again, if let’s say you had $100,000 of a stock, AmeriTrade takes it from you, you let them borrow it, you let them give it to somebody else, then they AmeriTrade will take $102,000 worth of assets T bills or something else and they’ll put it into Wells Fargo just in case. If they got a business well, Fargo will give you your money back.

Okay, so you are protected, but it’s not government protected. That’s why they call it fully paid lending that it’s, you know, fully paid. What else? Okay? So dividends, dividends are different dividends are paid, but they’re not paid as a dividend. So let’s say you have $1,000 dividend coming up. If you have lent the stock, the broker will still pay you that $1,000 But it won’t be classified as a dividend. So depending on your tax situation, you know, that might upset you a little bit. But it’s still better than not getting the money, right? It’s still better than not getting interest. So I don’t know if that would make sense to offset it unless you know your tax bracket and talk to your accountant about it. Make sure it works and makes sense. But if you’re doing this Send an IRA account, well, then there’s no taxes, so you don’t have to worry about it at all. That’s the last thing according to AmeriTrade, now again, I, I’ve only contacted AmeriTrade so far, I do think that this can be done at other brokers in a regular account. But at AmeriTrade, they want you to do this in a non-margin account. So if you have a regular account that does not have margin, they will let you do it in there, or they will let you do it in a margin enable IRA. So what that means for us, as passive traders, is if you’re selling options, you know, if you’re selling credit spreads, iron condors or naked puts in a regular trading account, that account will not be eligible. But if you’re selling those same options in an IRA account, that account is eligible. So this works for those of us who are trading or who have IRAs, and have margin enabled. So you can do that in there, because you probably have most of your stocks in there anyway, the long term holdings, so this will be another added boost to that income and that yield. So that’s really cool. That’s the basics of it. Okay. Again, it’s either called the stock yield Enhancement Program, or it’s called the fully paid lending Income program. Again, this is money that it’s free to you. There’s no restrictions. And I’m looking at the website right now for AmeriTrade on that page. And it’s, basically it says earn extra income on stocks and ETFs, you hold in your account by lending them out for a fee, we facilitate the loans. I mean, AmeriTrade charge borrowers and share 50% of the income with you, the securities must be fully paid for not borrowed on margin. Okay, so it says here, you know, you can buy and sell your shares. As usual, you can review the loan details on your daily statements. So you’ll get daily income statements, and you can opt out at any time. So you’re not logged in. There’s no fee for this, you’re not paying anything to do this is basically something you click on your account, you make an apply application. And then if that’s turned on, then there you go, we’re off to the races. How much money can you make? Well, they got some hypothetical lending rates here, you can get 10.5% 5% 1% 15% on different stocks, depending again on how hard it is to borrow. I mean, that’s basically all it is, right? It’s pretty crazy. If you have a it’s and they based it on 360 days of lending.

So I guess five days the markets are closed. All right, I guess I don’t know how they calculate the 360. But that’s what it is they pay you for 360 days out of the year. So even on weekends, you’re still getting paid interest. And that’s really cool. So again, the considerations and the you know, the risks if you want to say shares, loans are not protected by the SIPC however, the shares are fully secured by collateral held at a third party custodian like explained to you well, when the bank holds the money, you do forfeit your right to participate in any corporate actions, such as proxy votes, tender offers, and voluntary actions. So there’s a vote coming on or something you don’t get to vote. Okay, I don’t vote anyway. So for me, it doesn’t really matter. Rather than dividends, you receive substitute payments in the same amount, which are taxed differently from dividends. So again, talk to your CPA about that. Typically, typically, positions must be more than $10,000 to be considered for lending. So you want to have at least $10,000 in that stock doesn’t say you got to have 100 shares. So that’s cool, you know, you might have less than 100 shares. But if you have $10,000, they’ll still borrow it. And then securities lending may not be suitable for all investors, and is only provided to clients after a review and approval process. So yeah, that’s, you know, that’s them covering their own butts,

They have some FAQs here, there’s an application, you gotta meet some criteria, and it doesn’t say that, you know, all the money or the all this, all the shares will be loaned out, but they will all be eligible. So it depends on what the market wants, right? And yes, you can buy and sell the security, as usual. If it’s lent out and you sell the stock, then you just stopped getting any interest. So that’s it. And that’s it and you do your own research. I just want to get this out to you. This is really cool way of just being extra free money. There’s nothing to buy nothing to do. If you have an account at a broker that does this. Just ask them how do you set it up? What are the pros and cons try it out. If you don’t like it, stop it, you know, but this is just another way to generate some extra passive income from stocks that you already own. And I’m just happy to bring this information to you that you could do this. Go ahead go get it started today while you’re doing this, you know, watch his video again if you have to get the details but yeah, it’s pretty simple. Go set it up. All right. Trade with the odds in your favor guys. Wish you all the success in the world. Peace out.

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