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		<title>By: Genius</title>
		<link>http://optiongenius.com/blog/when-do-i-buy-back-a-credit-spread/comment-page-1/#comment-2489</link>
		<dc:creator>Genius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Belinda,

You want to get a good broker with commissions as low as possible. For Canadians the commissions ratea are different. I do not know why - never really looked into it. But you guys pay a lot more. 

So what can you do?

One option is to try to negotiate with the brokers. The larger your account size, the lower they are willing to go. And tell them you are considering them and 2 others. The rate that is listed on their site is not the bottom line price.

Another option is to check with other brokers. Interactive Brokers is in Canada and they are pretty cheap here in the US. Their platform takes a while to get used to but many professionals use them so they are good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belinda,</p>
<p>You want to get a good broker with commissions as low as possible. For Canadians the commissions ratea are different. I do not know why &#8211; never really looked into it. But you guys pay a lot more. </p>
<p>So what can you do?</p>
<p>One option is to try to negotiate with the brokers. The larger your account size, the lower they are willing to go. And tell them you are considering them and 2 others. The rate that is listed on their site is not the bottom line price.</p>
<p>Another option is to check with other brokers. Interactive Brokers is in Canada and they are pretty cheap here in the US. Their platform takes a while to get used to but many professionals use them so they are good.</p>
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		<title>By: belinda</title>
		<link>http://optiongenius.com/blog/when-do-i-buy-back-a-credit-spread/comment-page-1/#comment-2488</link>
		<dc:creator>belinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good evening allen,

one of your recommendation is think or swim broker but they charge 9.99 canadian dollars + 1.25 per contract...and here is one of your comment above that contradict your recommendation...(That’s why having an option friendly broker is so important. I pay $1.25 per option with no trip charge. If you are paying $10 plus $1 per option or some other crazy commissions then you ae playing a game that is stacked against you. Get a better broker.)
I am confused please clarify...thank you so much</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good evening allen,</p>
<p>one of your recommendation is think or swim broker but they charge 9.99 canadian dollars + 1.25 per contract&#8230;and here is one of your comment above that contradict your recommendation&#8230;(That’s why having an option friendly broker is so important. I pay $1.25 per option with no trip charge. If you are paying $10 plus $1 per option or some other crazy commissions then you ae playing a game that is stacked against you. Get a better broker.)<br />
I am confused please clarify&#8230;thank you so much</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Plaskett</title>
		<link>http://optiongenius.com/blog/when-do-i-buy-back-a-credit-spread/comment-page-1/#comment-1036</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Plaskett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 00:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, we are dealing with information that is a year old in this discussion.  Things have changed a lot since then.  Commissions have gotten more competitive and brokerage houses have also gotten more conservation so they don&#039;t do anything wrong.  You have to take a little bit of the good with a little bit of the bad.  I think it comes out in the wash as long as you compare each of the sites as apples to apples and not apples to oranges.  Thx.  Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, we are dealing with information that is a year old in this discussion.  Things have changed a lot since then.  Commissions have gotten more competitive and brokerage houses have also gotten more conservation so they don&#8217;t do anything wrong.  You have to take a little bit of the good with a little bit of the bad.  I think it comes out in the wash as long as you compare each of the sites as apples to apples and not apples to oranges.  Thx.  Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Genius</title>
		<link>http://optiongenius.com/blog/when-do-i-buy-back-a-credit-spread/comment-page-1/#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>Genius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and all my calculations are using a regular margin or Reg-T account. If you have a portfolio margin account your returns will be so much higher that commissions will be the last thing on your mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and all my calculations are using a regular margin or Reg-T account. If you have a portfolio margin account your returns will be so much higher that commissions will be the last thing on your mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Genius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Genius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My commission is $1.25 per option. Not $2.50 for unlimited options.

Actually commissions do play a role but not as much as you make it seem. And not on most trades.

For example, the MCD butterfly i did last month. This trade bought and sold 63 options. (Because of the adjustments). You might remember this trade Xueren, you were talking about it in another post.

And it had a pre commission profit of $141.  If you paid $1.50 per option, you paid $94.5 in commissions. That&#039;s a lot. But you still made $46.50 or 2%.

This is the highest number of options I have used in any trade I could find.

So even in the most commission intensive trade I have done in a while, I sill made money. 

Most of our trades use much fewer number of contracts. That&#039;s why I use SPX instead of SPY and RUT instead of IWM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My commission is $1.25 per option. Not $2.50 for unlimited options.</p>
<p>Actually commissions do play a role but not as much as you make it seem. And not on most trades.</p>
<p>For example, the MCD butterfly i did last month. This trade bought and sold 63 options. (Because of the adjustments). You might remember this trade Xueren, you were talking about it in another post.</p>
<p>And it had a pre commission profit of $141.  If you paid $1.50 per option, you paid $94.5 in commissions. That&#8217;s a lot. But you still made $46.50 or 2%.</p>
<p>This is the highest number of options I have used in any trade I could find.</p>
<p>So even in the most commission intensive trade I have done in a while, I sill made money. </p>
<p>Most of our trades use much fewer number of contracts. That&#8217;s why I use SPX instead of SPY and RUT instead of IWM.</p>
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		<title>By: Xueren Zhang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xueren Zhang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OG.When you are talking $2.5 per spread,you mean no matter how many contracts per spread you trade ? For example,if you sell to open 20 contracts of apvwq and to buy to open 20 contracts of apvwp,your broker only charge you a total of $ 2.50 ?

If so,how can we negotiate such an unbelievable commission ( if we trade ten options a month ) as individuals,not institutions ? Even Optionhouse or Thinkorswim can&#039;t let us have $2.5 per spread ? Optionhouse charges $14.95 per spread,and Thankorswim charges between $1.00 to $2.20 per contract ?

If we can&#039;t have rock bottom option commissions,it&#039; hard to follow and execute your trades as a member,because you have adjusted your trades quite a bit? It&#039;s OK for you because you just pay $2.5 each time you trade ( unlimited contracts),but for your members,if we pay $10 to $22 ( 4 to 20 contracts per spread ),your members are are really at disadventage positions,and will never achieve such ROI per month and per year as you do in your newsletter ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OG.When you are talking $2.5 per spread,you mean no matter how many contracts per spread you trade ? For example,if you sell to open 20 contracts of apvwq and to buy to open 20 contracts of apvwp,your broker only charge you a total of $ 2.50 ?</p>
<p>If so,how can we negotiate such an unbelievable commission ( if we trade ten options a month ) as individuals,not institutions ? Even Optionhouse or Thinkorswim can&#8217;t let us have $2.5 per spread ? Optionhouse charges $14.95 per spread,and Thankorswim charges between $1.00 to $2.20 per contract ?</p>
<p>If we can&#8217;t have rock bottom option commissions,it&#8217; hard to follow and execute your trades as a member,because you have adjusted your trades quite a bit? It&#8217;s OK for you because you just pay $2.5 each time you trade ( unlimited contracts),but for your members,if we pay $10 to $22 ( 4 to 20 contracts per spread ),your members are are really at disadventage positions,and will never achieve such ROI per month and per year as you do in your newsletter ?</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been using Think or Swim for about 2 years now and have been very happy with them.
They have good commisions, especially for smaller accouts this can be huge.  Also, their support is top notch.  If you email them a question or live chat, you could even get an answer from the CEO of TOS. Highly recommend them.  Take them for a test drive for free!

Bruce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been using Think or Swim for about 2 years now and have been very happy with them.<br />
They have good commisions, especially for smaller accouts this can be huge.  Also, their support is top notch.  If you email them a question or live chat, you could even get an answer from the CEO of TOS. Highly recommend them.  Take them for a test drive for free!</p>
<p>Bruce</p>
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		<title>By: Genius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Genius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

This was a little higher risk trade and was not part of the OptionGenius portfolio. I did it in my personal trading account. We have done AAPL credit spreads in the OptionGenius portfolio before but since I take a very conservative appraoch I did not want to expose members to the risk - which was earnings. AAPL had a good quarter and the price shot up. It could just as easily had a bad or so-so quarter and had the stock price fall by the same amount, in which case the trade would have been a nail bitter.

OG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>This was a little higher risk trade and was not part of the OptionGenius portfolio. I did it in my personal trading account. We have done AAPL credit spreads in the OptionGenius portfolio before but since I take a very conservative appraoch I did not want to expose members to the risk &#8211; which was earnings. AAPL had a good quarter and the price shot up. It could just as easily had a bad or so-so quarter and had the stock price fall by the same amount, in which case the trade would have been a nail bitter.</p>
<p>OG</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t remember this recommendation. Was this one not published?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t remember this recommendation. Was this one not published?</p>
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		<title>By: steven thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>steven thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interactive Brokers  is only about $.70.  i got ThinkorSwim to give me 1.25 per contract flat rate today</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interactive Brokers  is only about $.70.  i got ThinkorSwim to give me 1.25 per contract flat rate today</p>
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